If you missed Josh Pacheco’s exclusive interview with ESPN Senior Writer Don Van Natta, Jr., you can check out the full conversation below. Van Natta provides his insights on “The Tale of Te‘o,” the latest installment of the network’s “Backstory” series. The episode focuses on Te‘o’s infamous 2012 relationship with “Lennay Kekua,” who turned out to be a fictional character created by a California man named Ronaiah Tuiasosopo. Was the former Punahou standout really a victim of a catfish hoax, or was he fully aware of what was happening?

Van Natta shares his experiences in trying to uncover the truth about this controversy. “All these years later,” he says, “there’s still people that are absolutely convinced that [Te‘o] was complicit with Ronaiah Tuiasosopo despite all those denials.”

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